- Published: 03.03.2003.
Bringing in General Ante Gotovina remains our commitment, if he is in the country
What are the most important
characteristics of the political dialogue that was conducted last week
in Brussels, we asked the Croatian Foreign Minister Tonino Picula.
- This political dialogue was held in the most positive atmosphere to
date – Picula replied. Our recently submitted candidacy for EU membership
has certainly contributed to it, but we also talked of issues which
are no longer a problem in relations between Croatia and the EU, such
as the Constitutional Law on the Rights of Minorities or the Law on
the Croatian Television Network, and even certain progress in the return
of refugees. What is important is that the context of talks has changed,
as the Croatian candidacy, whether we want to admit it or not, changes
the way the EU views Croatia.
We talked about the relations between Croatia and the EU, the situation
in the region, and for the first time about Iraq. This is a proof not
only of the importance of the Iraqi crisis, but also of the EU’s need
to raise such an issue with a country that has submitted its candidacy for full membership.
On behalf of Italy, which is to take over the EU presidency after Greece,
Georgios Papandreu, Chris Patten and Roberto Antonione have encouraged
Croatia to resolve as soon as possible the issues distancing it from
the EU. Of course, it is important that the submitted candidacy has
prospects. In this political dialogue, this was indeed about a matter
of real substance. The Greek Foreign Minister clearly said that Croatia
is viewed as a key point of cooperation and stability.
This assessment needs to be justified, doesn’t it?
- Of course it does. Croatia must offer additional proof that it fully
cooperates with The Hague Tribunal, and this is particularly important
right now, as we want to be perceived as a country whose candidacy for
EU membership is important. This certainly implies maintaining a good
working temperature and sensitising the Croatian public to the importance
of this cooperation. Besides, it is certainly necessary to complete
the return of refugees and to resolve the issue of their property. This
is very important so that Croatia may be viewed as a normal European
and democratic country which makes no distinctions between its citizens.
The first phase of lobbying has finished. What will diplomats be doing
in the forthcoming months?
- The dialogue with the EU continues intensively. Mr. Chris Patten is
to visit Zagreb shortly, we are preparing for the European Conference
in Athens in April and we have a series of activities related to the
celebration of the Day of Europe in May. The Summit in Salonika will
indeed be an opportunity for the EU to review once again its policy
which has a starting point in the results of the Zagreb Summit in 2000.
The Greek presidency is preparing very ambitiously for the Salonika
Summit and its priority is to better integrate the South-Eastern European
countries, the Balkans. However, each country must justify this Greek
ambition on its own, and make it credible by its own policy.
I can announce to Vjesnik readers that we shall not sitting down doing
nothing. For us, lobbying continues. Apart from the meeting between
the Prime Minister Ivica Račan and the British Prime Minister Tony Blair,
we shall focus on the region. This week, we are going to visit officially
Sarajevo. We will offer it our assistance and support on our joint path
towards Brussels. It is important at this moment to send a message to
our neighbours that by its candidacy for the EU, Croatia does not wish
to single itself out from its neighbours, but rather to be understood
as an expression of support to their Euro-Atlantic ambitions as well.
It needs to be said that my guest this month will be Mr. Goran Svilanović,
the Foreign Minister of Serbia and Montenegro. In Dubrovnik, we will
talk with Foreign Ministers of Macedonia and Albania on our joint approach
to membership in NATO, as I believe that by then we will have terminated
our work on the Adriatic Charter, to be co-signed by the USA. At this
moment, Croatia is singled out in the region not only by the fact that
it has submitted its candidacy for EU membership, but also by the speed
and success of its reforms. Here of course, we must not stop or get
lulled into inaction, as it concerns processes that might slow down.
We have to be careful that this does not happen.
What about specific problems in relations with The Hague? Has Croatia
delivered the necessary documentation?
- Relations with The Hague still oscillate. Can someone dispute the
fact that the Croatian Government has delivered more than 90% of documents
requested by The Hague? Can someone dispute that we have not given ten
thousand pages of archive material to The Hague investigators? Can someone
dispute that this Government did not arrange the talks between The Hague
investigators and witnesses and suspects? We have done absolutely all
of this. What remains as an open issue and which colours the perception
of all cooperation is the case of General Gotovina. Bringing in General
Gotovina remains our commitment, if he is in the country. If he is not
in the country, then of course, we expect others to make their contribution
to this issue as well. As to General Janko Bobetko, we are waiting for
the Court to give its final decision on whether it considers this case
closed or whether its assessment will be left for some other time.
I understand the sensitivity of one part of the international community
which, at this moment when Europe is admitting 10 new members, may show
some nervousness that another candidate is coming to the scene. Maybe
it will be harder for Croatia than for all previous countries. It is
a fact that we are joining the EU which has a single currency and is
soon to have 25 members. And then comes Croatia with its unfinished
transition story, burdened with certain internal issues and wishing
to skip a number of set elements and become a EU member. This may be
causing a certain unpleasantness and scepticism which is possible to
understand. We will not be discouraged by this scepticism. We will not
push our problems under the carpet, and scepticism will be removed by resolving these issues.
Regardless of what you have said, there is still a great doubt regarding
the commitment of the Government to arrest Gotovina?
- It is easy to express this doubt, but it is difficult to document
it. It will exist as long as the Gotovina case exists. It is in the
interest of the Croatian Government to resolve it as soon as possible.
Someone would have to prove that this Government consciously obstructs
the resolution of General Gotovina’s case which is absolutely not true.
We would take with the greatest seriousness any proof that would substantiate
this doubt. The Hague issue will probably remain the last critical element
on the ever shorter list of issues on the Croatian path to the EU. I
am sure that during the next several months we will prove by a number
of examples that the Government takes this cooperation seriously.
“I don’t believe that it is possible to cooperate with The Hague”
- I am not sure that all these assessments are correct. They are true in one part and I don’t run away form the accuracy of some criticism. That wouldn’t be serious. But to create a general picture of Croatia’s will based on a certain number of examples would simply not be responsible. If the Croatian Government really refused to fulfil part of its commitments, not only those undertaken internationally, but also to realise its own program, Athens would not be possible. Problems exist and no one is running away from them. If in a period of six months nothing happened or even if some of the issues were still outstanding, whether it concerns the return of refugees or cooperation with The Hague, then these assessments would be justified.
I simply don’t believe that it is possible to cooperate with The Hague for six months or do nothing on the return of refugees and their property. Maybe the adoption of certain documents takes longer than we wished, but these are not simple issues. Sometimes it is better to wait a bit longer for the elaboration of a certain document than to improvise poorly. I am sure that this serious matter dealt with at the Ministry of Reconstruction and Construction and the Government, is not being covered up and commitments are not being avoided, but its realisation is taking place according to the pace that Croatia can follow.
“We need the USA and the EU”
- We have talked about this, however, the fact that Croatia has, together with the other nine European countries, agreed to one political declaration doesn’t inhibit our path towards the EU or cause any additional comments which would burden relations between Zagreb and Brussels. For a long time, Croatia has been lagging behind in the processes of integration into the EU and NATO. When Croatia got the chance to elect its Government by the political will of its citizens honestly wishing to integrate it in both institutions, it was not enough to walk. It was not even enough to run. We had to start flying. But for flying, we need both wings, one is not enough. Therefore, we need both the USA and the EU to fly towards our goals.